• just_another_person@lemmy.world
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    14 hours ago

    Another waste of our time and money. It’s a bill to try and force companies to remove content they don’t like…or else.

    This will be shot down in court (again), and since the platforms themselves will be respontfir removing content, will not be forced to comply. It’s unconstitutional and unenforceable, so just a big ass waste of everyone’s fucking time. So dumb.

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      13 hours ago

      You’re assuming the courts will shoot it down. That’s a big assumption these days.

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        13 hours ago

        Show me one case where a judge has ruled an unconstitutional thing is suddenly constitutional in all these court cases. Even SCOTUS isnt playing that game.

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          When they ruled he has immunity. And in may well hear the supreme courts ruling on the legitimacy of the fourteenth amendment. Then there’s Eileen Cannon.

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            I think presidents having immunity is essential to have a functioning democracy. Otherwise the party currently in power could arrest the previous president for something they allegedly did while in power and would set a bad precedent. I think it is best for the presidents to be immune unless impeached by both the house and senate for something particularly heinous. And yes, Trump should probably have been impeached already after the insurrection, but that doesn’t change the fact that you can’t just willy-nilly arrest some ex president. There is separation of power for a good reason: to not give too much power to any branch of government.

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              No.

              Of course even the president has a right to due process, but no. If the president commits treason, he doesn’t get to be immune to that. A trial is warranted and an arrest if found guilty is correct.

              Yes, corruption could hypothetically rig such a trial. But a president immune from the consequences of his actions means there only needs to be one person corrupted to ruin a whole branch of government, instead of the hundreds it would take Congress to rig a trial.

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            11 hours ago

            Two members that know what would happen to them if they fracture codified law and intentionally do not. 300 million of us vs thousands in government.

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              Well not 300 million of us, since seemingly every registered Republican in the nation is also ecstatic about tearing the constitution to pieces. And they’re nearly the only ones among us who actually choose to own guns and have the capacity to actually do anything about it.

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            11 hours ago

            Again, not been a court case. If he tries, it will be shot down. There is no wiggle room for bullshit in the constitution about this.

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            Not in the constitution. That was a Supreme Court judgement (Roe v Wade) that was overturned.

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              Roe v Wade determined that the right to privacy was in the Constitution (due process clause of 4th Amendment) and that Texas laws restricting it were unconstitutional.

              States restricting abortion was the unconstitutional thing which was suddenly Constitutional again after Dobbs.

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    14 hours ago

    So how would this work with the fediverse? Like we federate all content…its going to be VERY difficult to do anything if political content creators keep being told to take it down.

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        such as reddit, we already know they have been doing it at the behest of the gop since '16

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        Wow. If the fediverse is only operable by meta’s instance inside the USA, I’m really going to miss everyone, because I’m just not, with meta.

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          No, it’s worse than that. It’s impossible to meet the standards set in this and other bills of it’s type without having a shortlist of curated, controlled people creating online content. That’s literally the point, keeping people from interesting with information they deem unsavory.

          That said, it is impossible to enforce unless they want to set up the great firewall of america.

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          so we create a walled garden of our own.

          can’t complain if the public can’t view it.

          someone takes screenshots of the problematic content and shares it? well they’re in trouble for posting/sharing problematic content.