Opinion: Think that next refresh is going to get better? The first step to freedom is admitting there’s a problem

  • MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works
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    13 minutes ago

    Windows is doing its best to shake me off. It keeps reminding me that it’s ditching Win 10 and I’d better upgrade. Except I won’t, because my (perfectly good) computer isn’t up to spec for 11. So in effect it’s telling me that I’d better hurry up and decide on a Linux distro, tick tock.

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    22 hours ago

    It’s interesting to see something as mainstream as The Register seriously suggest folks start ditching Windows and their preferred alternative seems to be Linux. Perhaps the year of the Linux Desktop won’t forever be “next year”.

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    1 day ago

    Windows 11 isn’t even on the top 3 worst iterations of Windows.

    I think MS shot itself in the foot by doing the whole “we’ll just iterate on this one forever” pivot to data gathering thing. At least in the good old days of Windows Me they could point at the next refresh as a clean break, even if it wasn’t.

    I ran Windows Me for maybe a year, by the way. Mostly out of morbid curiosity. It wasn’t even that bad, as I remember it.

    • grue@lemmy.world
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      1 day ago

      Windows 11 isn’t even on the top 3 worst iterations of Windows.

      In terms of spyware and enshittification it sure as Hell is!

      And that’s the measure that matters here: not mistakes, but deliberate abuse of the user.

      • Possibly linux@lemmy.zip
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        16 hours ago

        Windows 10 is also a privacy nightmare and also has Edge, One drive and ads.

        Windows 11 has some nice features and you can use Group Policy to clean it up a bit.

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          9 hours ago

          This is very true. There is a very weird endorsement from the Linux community of Windows 10 I do not align with at all. It’s basically the exact same thing.

          Especially since a lot of the less palatable features have been patched in backwards fairly dilligently. I use both routinely and there is little functional difference.

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        1 day ago

        Speak for yourself. I’d rather take spyware and enshittification than whatever Windows 8 was.

        I can get rid of the spyware and I was never going to use copilot anyway. Vista was Vista all the way through.

        • vapeloki@lemmy.world
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          1 day ago

          At this point, Windows itself is the Spyware. Forced cloud Accounts, AI Features embedded so deeply into the windows core that you can not longer remove it.

          The only intro get rid of it is installing Linux or buying a mac

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            9 hours ago

            A Mac? To avoid “forced cloud accounts and embedded AI features”?

            MS is out here pointing at Apple and going “I learned it from you, dad!” when it comes to those.

      • MudMan@fedia.io
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        9 hours ago

        Look, I was moving over from 98 and had been messing with 2000. When it came to choosing between constant blue screens or zero software compatibility it was a three way tie.

    • fox [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      1 day ago

      I think in terms of damage 11 is up there since it won’t work on systems without TPMs, but 10 is also approaching EOS, so an ocean of machines are about to become ewaste or malware vectors.

  • Tiger@sh.itjust.works
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    1 day ago

    I’m paying Microsoft $9 a month for something and I can’t find out what and can’t cancel it. I’m going to have to nuke my credit card to get it to stop and I don’t even know if that’ll work.

  • magic_lobster_party@fedia.io
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    1 day ago

    Windows might be a habit, but Microsoft is doing a pretty good job in breaking this habit. Many rather jump ship than make the move to Windows 11.

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      16 hours ago

      Windows 11 is better than Windows 10 from my experience

      It has lots of Microsoft induced pain but it also has a Terminal and good support for modern stuff.

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    1 day ago

    According to physiology, a bad habit becomes an addiction when it negatively impacts your life.

    It’s already an addiction.

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    21 hours ago

    Ok then you linux nerds should put together a drop in replacement distro that grannies can use

    Until then you will always be hobbyists

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      3 hours ago

      So, where is the issue?

      I installed Fedora a few years back on a PC of an 70 yest old woman. Reason: EOL of windows 7.

      Last week I visited her. Fedora is up2date, no issues, und besides the initial guided tour I did not provide any support.

      So, apparently, we HAVE already those distributions. So:

      what is your point?

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      16 hours ago

      What’s wrong with it being for “hobbyists?”

      It is great for anyone who wants to actual have control over there own computing. It isn’t and never was for “grannies”

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        13 hours ago

        Until you can get the grannies to adopt, linux will always be a novelty for desktops

        That’s the point I was trying to make

        And in true linux fanatic fashion, you are incapable of understanding just how terrible a product linux in general is

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          13 hours ago

          By that logic it will always be a novelty

          The thing is, the real Linux user base isn’t granny. It is the users who are interested in computers or computer related things. Linux isn’t for everybody but it isn’t a novelty either. Being a novelty would mean it is has no functional value which isn’t the case as it does have some market share.

          Also there is no reason granny can’t be a computer nerd

    • naeap@sopuli.xyz
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      21 hours ago

      Like Mint?
      Although there are probably some better ones specially for old people.

      But Linux is usually pretty easy for old people, as not much needs to be done after setting it up and it just keeps running.