Don’t give up sovereignity, even to allies! Alliances change, but even ignoring that, it’s akin to letting allies run your infrastructure or make your policies or own your water. It’s giving part of yourself away.
So, abandon the EU? Abandon the concept of the USA? My comment was tongue in cheek but deep cooperation can be a good thing. It’s part of the reason for the EU. Mutual dependency reduces the risk of war. Isolationism, like the USA is tending towards leads to more war.
The EU is not an alliance, since member states give up a good portion of their sovereignty to the bloc. It’s much closer to a “loosely bound US” than a “NATO on steroids”.
The EU as a whole is an interesting project, but the Eurozone currency bloc was a mistake. All it did was surrender everyone else’s currency sovereignty to Germany and France.
The currency is only one aspect and a quite recent aspect. Many other aspects of sovereignty are ceded as a condition of joining. However, the pros outweigh the cons.
The point of the increased cooperation is that everyone is better off, with less risk of war and better protections. The EU sets many minimum standards for goods, services, interoperability and budgets, legislation, courts etc that countries cannot override.
Ask Croatia, Ireland, Cyprus, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Slovakia andSlovenia if they are? Hint, they absolutely are.
Any union with such a variety of policies will have winners and losers for every project and legislation. Sometimes that will be individuals, sometimes countries. The point is that most are better off in general and that every country is better off from the sum of policies.
Countries have less control of their individual exchange rate. That was problematic for Greece, who underwent austerity, successfully I might add as access to the EU wide economy and trade, including (over)tourism is what’s taken them back from the brink.
In terms of larger countries, it has been beneficial for France and Germany, less so for Italy, but also less of a problem and less of the fluctuations the lira used to suffer.
In terms of larger countries, it has been beneficial for France and Germany, less so for Italy
It’s just a way for the wealthy metropoles to turn poorer members of the EU into neocolonies. Yeah, it’s great for rich Europeans! Not so much for everyone else. Without the ability to deficit spend (because they lack currency sovereignity) they are forced to do austerity and privatization. It’s just financial imperialism.
Well, you can safely store it with trusted allies….
Don’t give up sovereignity, even to allies! Alliances change, but even ignoring that, it’s akin to letting allies run your infrastructure or make your policies or own your water. It’s giving part of yourself away.
So, abandon the EU? Abandon the concept of the USA? My comment was tongue in cheek but deep cooperation can be a good thing. It’s part of the reason for the EU. Mutual dependency reduces the risk of war. Isolationism, like the USA is tending towards leads to more war.
The EU is not an alliance, since member states give up a good portion of their sovereignty to the bloc. It’s much closer to a “loosely bound US” than a “NATO on steroids”.
The EU as a whole is an interesting project, but the Eurozone currency bloc was a mistake. All it did was surrender everyone else’s currency sovereignty to Germany and France.
And death to the US.
The currency is only one aspect and a quite recent aspect. Many other aspects of sovereignty are ceded as a condition of joining. However, the pros outweigh the cons.
The point of the increased cooperation is that everyone is better off, with less risk of war and better protections. The EU sets many minimum standards for goods, services, interoperability and budgets, legislation, courts etc that countries cannot override.
Death to the US is reductive and inflammatory.
Ask Greece or the other Mediterranean nations if they are better off without their own currency (hint: they absolutely aren’t)
Death to US is a basic statement of understanding that the US empire is the primary contradiction.
Ask Croatia, Ireland, Cyprus, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Slovakia andSlovenia if they are? Hint, they absolutely are.
Any union with such a variety of policies will have winners and losers for every project and legislation. Sometimes that will be individuals, sometimes countries. The point is that most are better off in general and that every country is better off from the sum of policies.
Countries have less control of their individual exchange rate. That was problematic for Greece, who underwent austerity, successfully I might add as access to the EU wide economy and trade, including (over)tourism is what’s taken them back from the brink.
In terms of larger countries, it has been beneficial for France and Germany, less so for Italy, but also less of a problem and less of the fluctuations the lira used to suffer.
It’s just a way for the wealthy metropoles to turn poorer members of the EU into neocolonies. Yeah, it’s great for rich Europeans! Not so much for everyone else. Without the ability to deficit spend (because they lack currency sovereignity) they are forced to do austerity and privatization. It’s just financial imperialism.
It’s a bad system and it will collapse.
Imposed by the EU. There’s nothing holy about the EU and no, he IMF is not helping those in need. Nor is the ECB.
Fun fact, the USA is a union of states.
Fun fact, the USA is not part of the EU.
Fun fact: the USA is a union of states.
EU is compromised by usa, so yes, give it up
Ah yes the ever so reliable us !