Yeah no wonder. The administration he’s part of is behaving unconstitutionally, so it’s only logical he would condemn the Office for the Protection of the Constitution in other countries for doing its job. Can’t have that if you want to erode the democratic basic order.
Surprised fascist claims anti fascists are wrong and should stop fighting fascism. More news at 11.
I think the grand plan is to find somebody who messes up Europe from the inside, so that Americans don’t notice the difference too much.
They’re not happy with just Hungary, it seems
Always has been.
Honestly kind of has always been Europe’s plan for Europe too so that working class Europeans don’t notice either… I say that with love from one dumpsterfire to another.
Who cares what Reek has to say
lol stfu Rubio. They are a right wing extremist group. Feel free to read the damning evidence over 1000(!!!) pages
Marco Rubio can eat the peanuts out of my shit.
With best regards from a hopefully soon fascist-free Germany.
I am sorry I can’t hear the tiny little fascist man talking can someone tell me what he is saying his voice is too quiet and squeaky.
For real though, I just feel bad for Micro Rubio, when you make it all the way to the top and everyone still thinks you are a cowardly fascist loser it has to make it painfully obvious how worthless you are.
Who the fuck is Rubio and why should anyone care what he has to say about anything? It says he’s the us Secretary of State in the us. Meaning he’s about as unqualified to speak up about it as my pup.
Fuck these dumb idiots who can’t understand the difference between politics and terrorism.
heres there to make noise when trump and vance needs some backup
He is the secretary of state, Acting Archivist for the National Archives, Interim leader of USAID and most recently National Security Advisor.
Basically he’s 47 little bitch boy for any job he doesn’t care about enough to install one of his white supremacist stooges. Marco is his little dancing monkey, sent to do the jobs he doesn’t think are important.
This conveys all of the important information on Micro Rubio’s wikipedia page in so much more elegant and concise fashion.
Nicely done!
Have you considered employment posing as a summarization AI in a mechanical turk scheme? I have heard that is a good way to almost earn a living these days and it is looking more and more attractive by the day.
Note to the world, if Trump or his cronies condemn you for something, you’re doing the right thing.
My first thought when I saw the headline!
BTW, the AfD immediately complained to JD Vance and asked him to do something. That’s going to backfire hard.
I don’t know if they understand that their close association with Trump & Musk made the classification extremely easy, politically.
They are historically unpopular and they are dragging all their allies down with them.
Can we just fucking pass the “I’m rubber you’re glue” law already which would make any stupid fucker instantly shot out of a cannon directly into whichever capitol building near them if they ever tried to enact any overtly obvious bigoted law?
I would say that we should deport them, but I would rather we not run the risk.
What does Lavrov think?
Same battle :-)
“American Nazi Party Leader Condemns Foreign Government for Classifying Nazis as Nazis”
They are certainly not nazis. The Nazis were organized and not lazy. The Nazis actually believed their own bullshit. The Nazis had intelligence and cunning. Trump has none of these things. He is the dumbest laziest dictator the world has ever seen.
Don’t believe nazi propaganda about those things. They were largely inefficient and disorganized, they just predated others to fuel their goals. It’s one of the economic reasons for waging war on everyone: once you use up your local stolen wealth, you gotta raid other people’s. Nazi organizational structures were famously broken, with different redundant levels of political control pitted against each other, in line with social darwinist ideas.
And by far not all Nazis were true believers. Tons were “merely” playing along, because they thought they’d get something out of it. They often did, with the wealth of previously Jewish owned (and other) companies being handed to people close to the leadership.
These are parallels, not contrasts.
Fair enough, I stand corrected.
You ever read a comic book with characters with big blocky fists and feet? You ever notice how the comic book villains in those stories were completely incompetent and SUPER weird? Yeah that’s because Jack Kirby, a Jewish man from NYC was a forward scout during WWII and saw the nazis for who they were first hand. He spent a career trying to communicate to the world the horrors of what he saw: these weird dumbasses were somehow able to kill 6M of his brothers and sisters simply by doing it.
He also portrayed his Jewish-coded characters such as The Thing as being deeply emotionally connected to the people around them and invested in social causes because
- That was his own personal understanding of his Jewish faith
- Something very disturbing happened after WWII. A particular set of violent weirdos like the ones he’d seen in France and Germany came to define what Judaism was to the world at large (I’m talking about Zionists right now). He hoped to reach young boys reading his comics and instill in them that this was not the way, and that the way was for them to find allies and coalitions with similar ideals to them without establishing a hierarchy of racial classes
None of the way silver and bronze age comics depict violent weirdos is an accident. Comic Books as an art form has its roots in a mix of street art and war-time propaganda. The weird part (or perhaps the beautiful part) is that across the globe this is true. Spanish Comics have their own look and feel influenced by that Iberian street art has its own look and feel. Same with Japanese comics, Latin American comics, comic books from people outside of NYC. I could go on. But there’s this… Incredible force of… Human nature where when we gather together we tell stories and spread messages to each other. Comic Books are a low art, and they’re often seen as being for kids, but their creators don’t see being low art as being lesser art. A lot of them have high art training and have seen what the high art world values and have rejected that.
And like… There are some comic books out there that have TRULY incredible things to say about the world, history, and humanity. My very favorite, One Piece, is super accessible, too, written and conceived to communicate to 10 year olds that resistance to fascism is rooted in the following: environmental protections, comedy, and giving nazis a good old fashioned punching. Maus is a biographical examination of the experience of a holocaust survival. Monster is about the traumas of the cold-war era for people “protected” by the mass control mechanisms established by the Soviet Union and United States. Footnotes in Gaza is an expose of the long running genocide in Gaza that is currently intensifying into total elimination. V for Vendetta explores what it means to resist fascism. Saga is… Jesus what do I even say about Saga. Saga is… An exploration of… Everything. It takes a deep close up look at what it feels like to try to survive in a total system of torture while maintaining a normal relationship (hint hint: it’s messy). Too often we think of war as being a top level thing between groups when those groups are made up of individuals experiencing daily personal tragedies. Saga addresses that. Which means there’s a mass scale war and interpersonal drama and neither draws focus from the other, but instead places both into stark relief about what’s going on.
New paragraph because I’m not done saying there’s comics out there that y’all should check out. Obviously there’s Watchmen, the examination of American fascism and its downsides. Actually I guess that’s the last one. But like… I hope this makes an impression on someone. Comic Book artists aren’t just trying to make a buck drawing doodles. A lot of them could make more money selling their work to high art assholes, but they choose to share their work with you and inspire you into being a better more complete person. And the accessibility and relationship between Comic Books and Street art is also an invitation. If you have a message to promote to the world, there’s a place for you in the arts, even if your art isn’t refined enough for the high art assholes. Still you can make something that connects with someone.
If you really pay attention, too, to the street art in your community, you can start to notice that street artists are having an asynchronous conversation with eachother. One will tag something and include a message with a tag, and then another street artist will tag something nearby with a message that’s related or in response. And when you see street art covering up other street art? That’s a dire message. The second artist is telling the first “I don’t just disagree with you. I think you should shut the fuck up and stay out of the streets”
And comic books are always having this conversation back with the streets, too. That’s part of what’s so incredible about the Spider-Verse films. They’re the first super hero films that engage with that the intersection of activism, art, and fantasy is where superheros come from. Every Spider-Man in those films is an artist of some variety and Spider-Punk (Hobie) is an EXPLICIT demonstration of exactly how far this can go. His activism and art aren’t an undercurrent or a side hustle for his spider-man. They’re an explicit aspect of his “heroism” (he’s not a hero because calling yourself a hero makes you a self mythologizing autocrat (by the way Luffy in One Piece says the exact same thing))
Upvoting the selection of truly impactful comic books. Guess my collection is missing Saga. Thank you for that.
god i’m glad some part of that long rant landed for someone. it’s so weird how on the internet effort, care, and thought are all punished
Hmm, honestly, I feel like that isn’t necessarily the case and often connected to the audience, especially if such a comment is offtopic.
Personally I have felt that on Lemmy effort and care are very much appreciated. But there is a breaking point in regards to the insightfulness and the length of the comment. Like there needs to be at least X amount of new and interestimg information per paragraph.
Hey its me the internet, SHAME ON YOU for writing such a thoughtful comment.
You know, it isn’t easy being me, I somehow have access to all the information on earth and yet I leave all the smart kind people in the world with sad surprised pikachu expressions on their faces!
What to do!
Then someone like you comes along with the nerve to write a cool comment and like bam all of a sudden the whole dead internet theory of corporate control over the media seems like a bunch of powerful people giving up their power to control the commons in an a hilarious strategic miscalculation that assumed killing the lights wouldn’t make the person with the crank up flashlight the most popular person in the room.
How DARE you. Whatever you do don’t keep writing really interesting and cool comments like this and definitely don’t link to more interesting sources and articles people can read if they find it interesting.
STOP IT… no I told you to STOP DOING THAT
i haven’t forgot about you. i just got home. i’ll send some shit tomorrow
you i like. i’m moving house today, but after that i’ll try to put together a list of resources for learning comic books, graphic novels, and street art. unfortunately most of my understanding comes from word of mouth and physical books and articles, so a lot of what i just shared is just shit i’ve picked up through the years. but you can definitely start with comic tropes on youtube. that guy makes comics and comic history really approachable. personally i think he’s at his best when he’s covering a silver age artist or an artist from somewhere other than NYC
well that just validates this decision
First France, now Germany. Seems Europe (at least some of us) has decided it won’t sit idly and let far-right extremists burn us to the ground.
Although these are all provisional fixes. The true solution would be to get the people to ditch these idiots, and to do that, we need to fight disinformation and far-right propaganda on social media. Democracy can’t survive if the voting base is too ignorant to choose its leaders.
US social media is the vector for that infection…
You’re kidding right? Far right extremist thought bubbles websites predate social media
But you used to have to go find them. Now they’re being inserted right into your feed.
And the algorithms are tuned to do it. Russia wants to run a disinformation campaign on Meta platforms and twitter? Well the owners of meta and twitter are both in favor of that type of disinformation being disseminated because it benefits them personally
But we’re talking about now, not then.
This is not a fix at all in Germany. There are no immediate repercussions of the Verfassungsschutz calling the AfD extremist. There might be more wind in the sails of the politicians that want a motion to ban them, but I’m definitely not holding my breath for it during a Merz administration.
I agree, it’s not a fix. However it’s also not just “calling them extremist”. It’s an official classification not just something haphazardly mentioned in a speech.
The move, announced Friday by the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution (BfV), means that the AfD is no longer merely under suspicion. The agency says it now has definitive evidence that the party works against Germany’s democratic system.
A 1,000-page internal report, according to German public broadcaster ARD, underpins the decision, citing violations of core constitutional principles such as human dignity and the rule of law.
The new classification doesn’t ban the party, but it allows German authorities to intensify surveillance, including the use of undercover informants and monitoring communications, under judicial oversight.
So they can watch them harder? How does that prevent anything?
Germany should just ban Xitter. That’s where most of this nazi infection is coming from.
No, most of it is coming from BILD and the other traditional media that poisons our public political discourse for decades.
It puts some grants for them into question, so less money for the faschs.
we need to fight disinformation and far-right propaganda on social media
Find, then degrade, deny and destroy, the sources of the propaganda, and do the same to the conduits.
Democracy can’t survive if the voting base is too
ignorantmisinformed to choose its leaders.People not knowing enough IS bad for democracy, but the fact that they “know” so many objectively false and harmful things is MUCH worse.
Education allows you to reason about what you’re being told and filter out a lot of the bad stuff. It’s not perfect, but it helps you spot egregious “facts” and label the speaker appropriately as untrustworthy.
Canada conservatives are trying to keep PP alive
Hypocrites the lot of them.
He has said many times there should be term limits on MPs and low and behold he is parachuting into Alberta just like a good little hypocrite does.
Imagine someone conservative running against him as an independent and winning.
That would be priceless. Are there any anti fascists conservatives living in the Battle River area?
Make political advertisement / political messaging illegal on entertainment platforms. There’s precedent for highly regulated TV advertisements, why is there such a broad exception for unregulated manipulative online advertising? Why is cigarette, religious, drug advertising forbidden but political lies and agendas allowed, endorsed even? Fines need to be 50% of monthly worldwide profit and increase by 5% for each month of noncompliance.
This simple legislation would instantly solve a lot of current issues with what’s wrong and protect free, democratic nations.
Just banning Xitter would solve most of the problem, imo Maybe Facebook too.
Fines need to be 50% of monthly worldwide profit and increase by 5% for each month of noncompliance.
Profit is a bad metric here, they have decades of experience pretending they have no profits. Make it 10% of company value each month.
The true solution would be to get the people to ditch these idiots, and to do that, we need to fight disinformation and far-right propaganda on social media.
Agreed. But it seems that the EU is also doing something about that. Just like with AfD, they’ve been dragging their feet for way too long but now something* gave them a jolt.
We currently have an interesting success story of Die Linke (proper left-wing party) who managed to garner votes by embracing social media and *cough* populism in, what seems to be, a Good Way.
and to do that, we need to fight disinformation and far-right propaganda on social media.
Nope. I mean it’s not wrong to do that, but it would be mistaken to see that as anything but a flanking measure: You can’t fight affect with cognition. We need real-world policy which alleviates people’s anxieties.
Yeah you should ban their media, books, speech & lock them up. That’ll teach them about fascism alright.
On a more serious note, all this decision by Germany does is make groups like AfD stronger.
“fight disinformation” =/= " ban their media, books, speech & lock them up"
You really gave that strawman a good beating though.
Not really, it seemed fairly low-effort.
Found the nazi.
You can’t fight fascism on the marketplace of ideas. The moment you sit at the table to talk, they spring up and punch you in the face.
Limiting circulation of fake news, holding those who spread it accountable, and forcing social networks to moderate their platform if they want to operate in the EU, should be the priority.
Nobody’s doing this. You’re arguing against your own fantasies.
They broke the law. You’re arguing for changing the constitution* to let the AfD continue practicing unconstitutional* politics, because you don’t want to make the AfD stronger?
* “Grundgesetz” - close enough
You kinda have a point. If we fight fascism using fascist methods, we only empower it because suddenly they feel oppressed. But we do need to fight misinformation. But our polititians are so incredibly tech illiterate.
They started out feeling oppressed even when nobody did anything to them, based entirely on misinformation.
Alternate headline: “Demagogue objects to objective reality”
I was going to say something like “I liked the USA better when it had no clue about foreign politics” but then I realised that maybe that’s just because we weren’t the target before. Is Europe now part of the USA’s definition of Middle East?
The US actually has an ally (1) in the Middle East, unlike Europe at this point.
Have Israel EVER gone to war with the USA? Every NATO country has stood by the USA as an ally, but Israel is only ever there to put their hands out. They are Takers, not Givers. I wouldn’t think of them as allies.
They did try and sink one of our intel ships because they claim they thought it was an Egyptian horse transport.
I mean they are useful in keeping the Region in perpetual war and instability so that the US could divide and conquer for resources more easily. But latest since the US is selling more oil than it is buying Israel is mostly a liability. Unless the goal is to murder as many brown people as possible. For that it is the best, although this will not benefit the US as a nation or the people of the US.
Yes Marco. Yeees. Dance for daddy 47. Daddy 47 won’t deport you to CECOT if you do what he says. Normalize fascism globally Marco for daddy 47 and grandaddy KGB potato. It won’t get you specifically killed. Not so long as you dance the dance and sing the song, Marco. Never mind that most of the people in CECOT danced the dance and sang the song. Their only crime was looking like you in daddy 47’s eyes. But you’re different Marco. You’re daddy 47’s favorite. Sure he’s backstabbed everyone who’s ever helped him almost immediately. He’s gone back on every deal he’s ever made. But you Marco. You’ll survive. Sure there’s no evidence to demonstrate you’ll be okay given the totality of everything.
