I wanted something that’s more difficult to consume media on. Something that is less conductive to feeding some guy’s advertising empire. The cloud apps are interesting to me not because of YouTube, but because of maps and public transport schedules. That way, it’d be closer to my main-main phone, rather than falling back to the smartphone for some apps.

E-ink smartphones like Mudita Kompakt seem pretty interesting, as the e-ink probably makes certain media unusable.

Whatsapp is somewhat optional for me as my friends don’t use it, but I know it’s important to other people. It would be important to me if I went outside the EU, though.

There’s also something about escaping Android.

Unfortunately there’s this post too: https://blog.bananahackers.net/farooqkz/on-the-state-of-kaios-and-bananahackers-community-as-of-summer-of-2023

Many “council” members have lost interest in developing for KaiOS. Many have not and believe this OS will live on and cover a minority of the market

But now, in 2023, this mobile Operating System seems to be on the verge of death. Not only KaiOS 3.0 is out but also KaiOS 3.1 is also out. But there is no device which is available worldwide. Only few carrier-locked devices for North America.

Here’s a demo of the cloud youtube playing https://youtu.be/2VPQ_3SAKi0?t=85 It looks tolerably legible to me. Definitely OK for playing music or dunno, watching soccer recaps or tech videos

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These feature phones are aimed at people living in countries who don’t have this privilege. If all I could afford is a 20 EUR phone I’d be pretty happy with having the cloud apps that I normally couldn’t be able to use. I’m sure that the executives at HMD don’t ask themselves “are we not violating the definition of the dumbphone?”, they’re trying to make their product attractive to sell the most units. And apparently the ability to watch YT or check cricket scores (the cloud apps), and in the future maybe WhatsApp, are just that.

Though yeah, my post is more about feature phones, not real dumbphones as I originally wrote in the title.

also, how does it even run a web browser when the whole device has just 128 MB RAM. will the device crash if I load up facebook. com?

The heavy lifting is offloaded to the servers (“cloud”), I think. The data you receive is how to draw the elements in the remote browser.

I wrote this by hand. It’s a fact list because I don’t want the research I’ve done to be lost. Does Deepseek find videos with links to a timestamp?

Most of the apps rely on contributors to provide supported locations. I was wondering if a dumb app where you provide the GTFS zip url of your city would be useful. Could work if you stay in your city a lot

e.g. most of what you see on https://www.transit.land/map#3.46/47.78/12.46 is GTFS (hopefully public urls)

Read the The rollout of Login 2.0 for our customers se tion in the linked post

I think they resell https://www.open-xchange.com/ so they were dependent on them accomodating Keycloak (identity solution used by mailbox)

Great for use on my phone when I want to use public/airport wifi

If you just want the tunnel encryption you can try hosting a VPN on your own home network. It’s what I do since I don’t need to spoof my location.

You are asking in the piracy community so I’m assuming you’re also using it to torrent (which a home VPN won’t help with) but you didn’t specifiy so I’m not sure

Did you try the new 2FA experience they have in beta? https://mailbox.org/en/post/beta-program-starts