Exactly as I called it.
More pathetic avoidance, because you’re still trying to “win” a debate you yourself proved yourself wrong in.
It’s hilarious.
You need less physical gold today to buy a house than in 1901. Yet you cry “go look at the definition of the word ‘exponential’”. I genuinely can’t make up stuff this hilarious. And you keep giving me more.
So, I have proved and sourced my claim and all you can do is spam immature garbage. Does it make you feel like a winner? ;>
Like I’ve said all along, you know you’re wrong, and you’re just unable to admit it. I’ve seen this tantrum literally thousands of times online.
What you should do is take the L and slink away, but you wont.
You’ll keep replying out of some weird obsession, despite being very clearly wrong about a bunch of things, which I’m gonna list once more.
I proved my claim that supporting Bitcoin indirectly supports drug cartels, (with data from Europol among other sources). You couldn’t accept it. You started having this tantrum, which I’ve been being entertained by for days.
You said Bitcoin hasn’t had exponential growth, and then thought that gold did, and then linked data proving yourself wrong. 
How much more can you shame yourself man? Just take the L, bow and next time don’t talk about shit you don’t understand the basics of. :D
Oh wee got to the point where you’ve just completely shut down and are just having such a tantrum you won’t even inputting words, but have to spam smileys.
“Yawn”, like some kid told me earlier.
“Holding” =/= investing
Using =/= holding.
I’ve asked a few times now, what’s your native language? Can’t be English, can it?
“Exponential” has a meaning as well. Remember when you told me to check it, and I did, and then you still stomped your foot about how Bitcoin didn’t have exponential growth in value, or if it did, then gold did as well, then you proceeded to prove yourself wrong? Remember that?
Well, that all happened after I linked you proof of how there’s trillions in value being used by the drug trade. This means that if you invest in that market, it’s value will grow, and the people who already have the largest market portion and are holding the most, experience the most profit. And those people, like I’ve proved a dozen times, are criminals.
But you can’t address any of that. You can’t even say anything anymore.
Just keep shaming yourself publicly, because you can’t stand behind your words, you fumble make embarrassing mistakes, prove yourself wrong with your own data. It’s ridiculous.
Let’s see how you’re gonna continue this tantrum.
Thanks for asking, just made me realise why they’ve chosen it.
It’s the Finnish word for a lemming, the animal. And seeing that people using Lemmy are called lemmings…
Lapp is a slur in Norwegian and not much used but I don’t know if it is used as an insult.
Well slurs can be used as insults anyway? My point is that in Finnish “lappalainen” only connotates people living in the North of Finland, Sami or not, and because the term also encompasses not only the north of Finland, but also the larger area, it’d depend on the context, but generally, “lappalainen” as in “lapplander” refers to the Finns, and to refer to the indigenous people you use Sami. But the Sami who live in the north of Finland can thus also be called lapplanders in Finnish, without there being any connotation of a slur. At least I was never aware of the connotation, but to be fair I live in the south of Finland.
Its just a different name for the same region.
Lapland (Sápmi in Northern Sami, Sää’mjânnam in Koltan Sami, Säämi in Inari Sami, Norwegian and Swedish Lappland, Russian Лапландия, Laplandija) is a historical region in the northern part of Fennoscandia in Finland, Sweden, Norway and Russia. [1] The Sámi are the indigenous people of the region.
Lapland does not form a unified administrative region
It’s just that collectively there’s a change trying to stop using any terms with “lapp” in the due to its connotations, but since our language is very different, the connotation didn’t ever transfer and people have no idea it’s offensive in origin. So se do talk about the Sami people, when talking about the indigenous people, but anyone living in that area would be reasonably called “a lapplander”.
Or idk, at least some people I’ve seen online have said it’s been used as an ethnic slur against the indigenous peoples at times, but I can’t find anything of that in Finnish. Which would explain why you call it Sapmi, because that’s the indigenous name for the people and the area and there may have been historical connotations with “lapp”, which we don’t have.
I thought you we’re Finnish from the username sounding a tad Finnish and being on sopuli. And I thought Finns ought to know that despite it being also an administrative region in Finland, it also refers to the whole area.
My mistake.
“Holding” =/= investing
Using =/= holding.
I’ve asked a few times now, what’s your native language? Can’t be English, can it?
“Exponential” has a meaning as well. Remember when you told me to check it, and I did, and then you still stomped your foot about how Bitcoin didn’t have exponential growth in value, or if it did, then gold did as well, then you proceeded to prove yourself wrong? Remember that?
Well, that all happened after I linked you proof of how there’s trillions in value being used by the drug trade. This means that if you invest in that market, it’s value will grow, and the people who already have the largest market portion and are holding the most, experience the most profit. And those people, like I’ve proved a dozen times, are criminals.
But you can’t address any of that.
But isn’t just in Finland.
What do they teach in schools nowadays…?
Idk man. They’re completely in the right. I’ve never heard of anyone thinking Lapland is solely Finnish?
Even the Finnish Wiki doesn’t think that.
Also, when the lighting struck, it was probably not from a clear sky. And reindeer can huddle. So if they’re all pretty much already touching each other…
Or even if they’re not huddled, they have a sort of defense mechanism where they just running in circles when threatened.
https://www.livescience.com/64778-vikings-reindeer-cyclone.html
So I imagine a thunderstorm might elicit that response. It’s just a guess though.
Moving goalposts. Yawn.
Literally from the start I said that Bitcoin is propped up by illegal markets, because it is. You asked for a source, I showed you sources showing the value of drug markets which use Bitcoin are in THE TRILLIONS.
That proves my argument. You then started shifting goalposts. And every time you end up saying something silly, like “Bitcoin didn’t exponentially grow in value, or if it did, so has gold”, then try to prove that statement by showing data which proves you wrong. :D
It’s hilarious.
Again, I did. You’re illiterate.
“I said I’m right because me saying how I totally use Bitcoin all the time for legal transactions worth at least like, dozens of dollars, proves that Bitcoin isn’t actually propped by illegal drug markets”
I never said that
I never said you said anything. I implied you implied it, which you did. Or have you not been pretending like implications don’t exist, but you genuinely don’t understand what the word means?
: “Holding Bitcoin indirectly funds crime”
I NEVER SAID THAT STOP MAKING THINGS UP :(((((((((
See how childish that sounds?
Investing in Bitcoin does fund crime. That’s a simple fact proven over and over by what can easily be inferred from the fact that practically all of the transactions in Bitcoin are for drugs, monetary value, I don’t give a toss if you think buying some booster packs makes even the slightest dent in the TRILLIONS that the drug markets are worth. Not to even talk about all the other crime.
You also have to pretend you said Bitcoin hasn’t exponentially grown in value. It has. You claimed “if Bitcoin has, then gold has as well” and showed evidence proving you wrong.
I can’t make anything as entertaining, thanks.
You think currency traders… take Bitcoin… and trade it for… Bitcoin…? Why would they do that?
No, they trade it for money? See this is what I mean. You have to pretend to be a simpleton because your ego doesn’t allow you to accept reality.
No more so than this:
I’m suffering from a slipping rib, so you’re honestly making me go “my sides” because I chuckling at you.
Gold is exactly the same value it was in 1980.
Like I predicted, you think it’s increased in value because the price has gone up, because you simply *look at the numbers. *
Like I said yesterday, this isn’t a debate.
This is entertainment.
I didn’t say that. Now you’re literally just making things up.
Another thing I’ve said before: you pretend like implications don’t exist, because you have to, so that you can avoid the simple things which prove you wrong.
You said “I should check the definition of the word”. I did, and just like I said, Bitcoin has exponentially increased in value, whereas gold has not. Do you understand the difference between “price” and “value”? They might seem similar, but they’re not the same thing.
Except I did. Are you illiterate?
Apparently so, please, do tell me what that thing is that is worth TRILLIONS, or even just billions? No? Can’t come up with a single thing, like I’ve said a dozen times, but can’t address me having sourced that black markets are worth TRILLIONS from a creditable source like Europol. But that makes you ashamed so you have to pretend I’m not right and you’re not just equivocating because you’re avoiding the facts.
You haven’t done that.
Ah yes, because you pretend something doesn’t exist, it doesn’t? Do you play and hide and seek by closing your eyes, because the others surely can’t see you if you can’t see them, right?
I have actually, just more illiteracy on your part. Maybe try going back and sounding it all out?
Pathological avoidance. "Yawn.
You can’t even offer rationale as to your weird delusions would be correct, but still kick and scream that Europol data is wrong.
" No, it’s not mainly used for the drug markets worth trillions that you’ve proved by Data from Europol and it isn’t even relevant to your claim"
I imagine that’s what you look like right now.
“What does it mean to be a currency trader”
It’s just amazing how stupid you have to pretend to be in order to keep up this delusion.
You think you have a “gotcha” with the gold thing. You don’t. The rarity in bitcoin isn’t what created the value, and it’s not what sustains it either. That’s just a basic requirement for a currency; it needs to be limited.
What created and sustains Bitcoins value is the trillions of dollars in drug money it’s used for. Which you can’t refute. Well you can, and have, but like I say, it’s delusional, I’ve shown you the data.
Given how obsessed you are with being right, I’m surprised you want to just admit to being wrong:
Honestly, the mental shenanigans you have to pull for this? You don’t think Bitcoin grew in value, exponentially? But I’m gonna bet you won’t be able to argue that either, seeing how it’s definition is ““of an increase) becoming more and more rapid””
And you don’t think this qualifies? 
What’s your native language man?
So either you picked a colloquial definition that makes you wrong about gold, or you’re wrong about it being literally exponential. Which one is it?
The buying power of gold is remarkably similar to what it was 100 years ago, but I assume you didn’t consider the buying power, but the numbers on the screen. It has changed, yeah, but the physical amount of gold you need is rather similar to what it was 100 years ago if you were to want to buy a house. It’s like literally one of the first things kids get taught in economics in any decent basic education; how well gold maintains value and how stable it has been historically? :D The value of gold definitely has maybe doubled or quadrupled, depending on what and how you do the comparison, but it’s definitely not even a dozen times what it was 100 years ago. Bitcoins value has changed by literally >20 000%. But you’re gonna sit there and pretend that isn’t exponential but that gold is? :DD
This is just ridiculous how you’re having to do all this because you can’t name a single thing you can buy with bitcoin that isn’t illegal. Despite me proving all my claims and you showing literally no support for your delusional brainfarts and decrying everything as insufficient and just refusing to believe reality, despite sourced facts.
TRILLIONS, remember? TRILLIONS. Funny how you haven’t addressed that a single time, isn’t it?
So I can roll up to the McDonalds drive-thru, ask for a quarter-pounder, and they’ll accept a chunk of gold as payment?
You can get a whore to do that for you, if you’re so committed. I didn’t say you can use it for literally any transaction. I said for literally anything. And I dare you you to give me gold and challenge me for a thing I can’t get, if it isn’t something like a sample of small pox.
Or do I need to exchange it first?
Not like Bitcoin, no.
To be clear, I use Bitcoin for legal transactions (not exchanges) somewhat regularly. Would actually be extremely cumbersome to send boosts using gold, funny enough. Probably why people don’t do it.
To purchase what, exactly? Or to buy and sell Bitcoin? Because unless you’re illiterate, you should understand that was excluded.
Weird how you keep avoiding answering me, almost as if you were a pathetic coward in avoidance. Almost like, eh?
I’ve asked you what else could there be? What use can it be for people? And the only thing you came up with is “a store of value”. Meaning you’re investing in something that is being actively used as currency, despite you not having a single use for that currency, because the market which utilises that currency is so strong, it makes investing (ie “storing value with the expectation it’s gonna grow”) in a currency profitable.
Like I said from the start, the drug trade created the value which made Bitcoin a worthwhile investment. That’s what created the value; a market valued in TRILLIONS.
Remember that? How the value is in the TRILLIONS? Or are you just gonna pretend all the data I showed — from fucking Europol and not some niche independent propaganda rags — doesn’t exist?
Ps edit funny how you don’t contravene the definition of “exponential” now that we checked it, isn’t it? 
The value of Bitcoin has not increased exponentially. You should look up that word.
Or maybe you should?
“of an increase) becoming more and more rapid”
I can roll up to the McDonalds drive-thru, ask for a quarter-pounder, and they’ll accept a chunk of gold as payment?
Like with Bitcoin?
I’m aware you’re unaware of how black markets work, that’s probably clear for anyone getting this far into the thread, but you can use it as currency, and every single small town will have at least a single gold trader, who will “store value” for you.
In what way?
In the way that countries on the gold standard, which included he US until about 50 years ago, had a system in which technically you were allowed to go any bank and demand your moneys worth in gold. Technically. But everyone doing that causes a bank run.
Which would also happen if there was some massive need about computer tech that could somehow magically trace all bitcoin transactions. And I do mean magically, because right now it trusts maths. And unless that changes, there’s prolly not gonna be a bank run on bitcoin.
I’ve asked you what else could there be? What use can it be for people? And the only thing you came up with is “a store of value”. Meaning you’re investing in something that is being actively used as currency, despite you not having a single use for that currency, because the market which utilises that currency is so strong, it makes investing (ie “storing value with the expectation it’s gonna grow”) in a currency profitable.
Like I said from the start, the drug trade created the value which made Bitcoin a worthwhile investment. That’s what created the value; a market valued in TRILLIONS.
Remember that? How the value is in the TRILLIONS? Or are you just gonna pretend all the data I showed — from fucking Europol and not some niche independent propaganda rags — doesn’t exist?
Just like Bitcoin.
But the value of gold hasn’t increased exponentially, unlike Bitcoin.
Any currency needs to be somehow limited for it not suffer hyperinflation. That’s just a basic necessity for anything valuable. With Fiat currency, it’s artifical limiting, which makes it highly unstable, unlike the gold standard. I wouldn’t be surprised if the US saw Post WWI Germany levels of inflation in the next few years, because the US is no longer on the gold standard, the US is making enemies of all and even the petro-dollar is faltering.
What do you purchase with chunks of gold?
Literally anything.
There’s not a city in the world you can’t go to with a huge bag of properly stamped gold and live as merry as you want.
Your whole “gold isn’t used as direct currency anymore” is a ridiculous fucking strawman, because the money represents gold, as per the gold standard. Bitcoin barely represents money, having very limited cash out points, let alone actually being backed up by anything physical.
Doesn’t matter how much of a tantrum you have. Practically all transactions being done in bitcoin is illegal trade. Investing in bitcoin isn’n a transaction with bitcoin. It’s just trading in bitcoin.
English isn’t your native language, I take it?
No, not exactly like gold.
Gold was backed up as value because it was established as rare and valuable several thousand of years ago, and it’s remained equally rare.
Bitcoin has significantly increased in value because the trade it’s being uses for has increased.
The first time I bought drugs with Bitcoin I had several hundreds. Then I bought them last time when they were around 1e a piece. Then despite not buying any more, it kept increasing in value so much I got several drug orders out of after spending about 115 out of it.
People noticed the huge influx in people buying Bitcoin. As traders do, they pay attention to trends. But people weren’t buying it as “store of value”, ducking LOL. They were buying bitcoin to easily and anonymously order drugs.
And that business is worth (this is the dozenth time I’m repeating this and you’re ignoring it, coward) literally TRILLIONS.
Which is why it kept growing in value, which is it attracted investment.
But I ask you, for the UMPTEENTH TIME:
#WHAT ELSE DO YOU PURCHASE WITH BITCOIN THAN ILLEGAL THINGS?
As does Bitcoin. Maybe you just didn’t know that. There is and can only ever be a fixed amount of Bitcoin. You might even be able to eventually travel to other planets and discover more gold there, but you can never discover more Bitcoin.
Yeah but the value increasing comes because of the rarity. That’s why bitcoin is now 83 000 more valuable than it was a mere 10 years ago when I had it.
If the value of gold had changed by 83 000 times, we wouldn’t be having this conversation. (The world would have ended, one way or another.)
Tens of thousands out of roughly how many total?
Of all the transactions? What else would it be used for? You know, the question I’m 4 now having to pretend to ask again, because you keep avoiding, because you know you the answer will prove me right?
Correct again. You are absolutely not.
Correct again, like I’ve been the whole time, UNLIKE you…?
how it became popular is completely irrelevant.
You’d just like to avoid it, because it’s central to this.
Meme coins come and go, because they’re unreliable. They’re unreliable, because there’s nothing actually backing them up, much like fiat currency.
However, gold has. Because gold is naturally rare. There’s a reason there’s a thing called the gold standard.
Because currency being backed against something real makes it more stable.
Much like Bitcoin relying on criminal transactions makes it reliable.
So again, you’re completely delusional to think there’s other transactions in Bitcoin. Name ONE.
I can and have shown you data from which you can infer that during this discussion of ours, tens of thousands of illegal transactions have taken place using Bitcoin, but you can’t even NAME a thing you’d use Bitcoin on.
You’ve still not understood this isn’t a debate. I’m not arguing you.
Oh max comment depth reached, but you’re still sore for some more public humiliation? Sure, buddy.
You can’t address anything you’ve said in the thread. I love commenting, because I can talk about the argument I made and how everything I’ve said has been correct, while you’ve been fumbling about and now have to avoid literally everything you said because you made stupid mistakes that you’re ashamed to admit.
You didn’t account for inflation, and just looked at the price of gold while arguing it’s value has gone through “exponential” growth? This is hilarious.
You have delusions of not supporting drug cartels when you’re “holding bitcoin” (meaning you’ve probably invested in it after it became popular due to the drug business, but if you had won some from like a esports tournament before it was popular then you wouldnt be supporting drug cartels just by holding on to it, which is why words matter.)
You’ve also avoided telling me what your native language is. Prolly because it prolly is English and you’re just ashamed to admit how stupid you have been. :D
“exponential” indeed.
But hey, I know your ego will force you to come here with some other emoji reply. I’ve seen it literally thousands of times. I’ll keep going as long as you want to. Becuase it’s not me you’re lying to. It’s yourself. You simply cant accept yourself, that you were wrong, you were stupid. It happens. It’s nothing to be ashamed of. You learned new things. Accept it an move on.