Yes we agree on the first part.

I will again direct you here re: the second.

Where is the world model you maintain? Can you point to it? You can’t - because the human mind is very much a black box just the same way as LLM’s are.

It’s not really factually correct if you want to get pedantic, both brains and llms are called black boxes for different reasons, but this is ultimately irrelevant. Your motive may be here or there, the rhetorical effect is the same. You are arguing very specifically that we cant know llm’s dont hae similar features (world model) to human brains because “both are black boxes”, which is wrong for a few reasons, but also plainly an equivalence. It’s rude to pretend everyone in the conversation is as illiterate as wed need to be to not understand this point.

Where is the world model you maintain? Can you point to it? You can’t - because the human mind is very much a black box just the same way as LLM’s are.

something being a black box is not even slightly notable a feature of relation, it’s a statement about model detail; the only reason you’d make this comparison is if you want the human brain to seem equivalent to llm.

for example, you didnt make the claim: “The inner workings of Europa are very much a black box, just the same way as LLM’s are”

Not understanding the brain (note: said world model idea is something of a fabrication by the ai people, brains are distributed functional structures with many parts and roles) is not an equality with “ai” make. brains and llm do not function in the same way, this is a lie peddled by hype dealers.

i see, the computer version of a prehensile tail…

depends entirely on the kind of drive.

This is generally in line with ice, the drivetrain efficiencies anymore are in the high 90%s (applies to ev too), so from engine out you are losing basically everything to drag.

You’re also unfortunately simply wrong

https://www.mediamatters.org/google/right-dominates-online-media-ecosystem-seeping-sports-comedy-and-other-supposedly

notably

We found substantial asymmetry in total following across platforms: Right-leaning online shows had at least 480.6 million total followers and subscribers — nearly five times as many as left-leaning.

• Across platforms — YouTube, Rumble, Twitch, Kick, Spotify, Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok — right-leaning online shows accounted for roughly 82% of the total following of the online shows we assessed.
• Comparatively, left-leaning online shows had nearly 104 million followers and subscribers across the eight platforms — nearly five times less.
• Nine out of the 10 online shows with the largest followings across platforms were right-leaning, with a total following of more than 197 million. The only left-leaning show among the top 10 was What Now? with Trevor Noah, which had 21.1 million total followers and subscribers across platforms.

critical thinking does not simply mean “think hard”, it means research this person and account for maybe two, even three, seconds, before assuming everything they say is truth.

“they looked at the thing that they wanted to look at” also rogan is still among the top podcasts including on spotify. the study if you read it, is looking at what 21% of adults get news from. 77% of the sources that 21% get some or most of their news from are spreading climate misinformation.

perhaps instead use critical thinking to determine genuinity. the alternative is not xitter’s version, and twitters old version was criticized too.

an attempt was made

Here’s a recent reuters report. https://www.reuters.com/technology/artificial-intelligence/ghibli-effect-chatgpt-usage-hits-record-after-rollout-viral-feature-2025-04-01/

160 million active users is quite literally worse than many mobile games developed for a tens of, maybe hundreds of thousands of, usd. 160 million active users for 40 billion funding (they have needed more than this, but i cant be assed to go tally their funding) means theyve spent $250 per user, and their costs only grow as people use it. That is not including the massive server time subsidies Azure has provided them. This is not a profitable company and never will be.

“Block Blast” on the google play store has 40 million daily active users, 160 million monthly, and the studio has around 30 people. Its revenue from ads alone is in the tens of millions per month if this case study is accurate. Oai claims their monthly revenue in the hundreds of millions… with operating costs at greater hundreds of millions. oai profit is negative, with no signs of improving without entirely changing their business plan.

except that “get em hooked for free” part isnt working, nor is the “then make money” part.

they’ll find a use case any day now for realsies.