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The woman who actually lives in the house had just moved to Oklahoma City from Maryland with her family about two weeks earlier.
“I keep asking them, ‘who are you? What are you doing here? What’s happening,’” she said. “And they said, ‘we have a warrant for the house, a search warrant.’”
She said they ordered her and her daughters outside into the rain before they could even put on clothes.
“They wanted me to change in front of all of them, in between all of them,” she said. “My husband has not even seen my daughter in her undergarments—her own dad, because it’s respectful. You have her out there, a minor, in her underwear.”
Marisa said the names on the search warrant were not hers or anyone in her family.
“We just moved here from Maryland,” she said. “We’re citizens. That’s what I kept saying. We’re citizens.”
She said the agents didn’t care.
“They were very dismissive, very rough, very careless,” she said. “I kept pleading. I kept telling them we weren’t criminals. They were treating us like criminals. We were here by ourselves. We didn’t do anything.”
Marisa said the agents tore apart every square inch of the house and what few belongings they had, seizing their phones, laptops and their life savings in cash as “evidence.”
“I told them before they left, I said you took my phone. We have no money. I just moved here,” she said. “I have to feed my children. I’m going to need gas money. I need to be able to get around. Like, how do you just leave me like this? Like an abandoned dog.”
Before they left, Marisa said one of the agents made a comment.
“One of them said, ‘I know it was a little rough this morning,’” she said. “It was so denigrating. That you do all of this to a family, to women, your fellow citizens. And it was a little rough? You literally traumatized me and my daughters for life. We’re going to have to go get help or get over this somehow.”
Now, Marisa said they have, quite literally, nothing.
“I said, ‘when are we going to get our stuff back?’ They said it could be days or it could be months,” she said.
Marisa said she is left with nothing but questions.
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Why aren’t ice agents getting popped by now?
It shouldn’t be important, but do we know their race? I read the article, but I may have missed it. I am assuming they are Hispanic.
Definitely cant see any comparisons to the SS there 👍
some fucking gestapo shit
Civil Asset Forfeiture. It’s legal in most states, but some are better than others. Oklahoma is dog shit:
https://ij.org/report/policing-for-profit-3/?state=OK
Seriously people, don’t move to Oklahoma, or really most southern states.
You mentioned southern states, but I just checked a few other states, because I was thinking maybe they’re blue, liberal, and it may be better:
HI: D- IL: D- MA: F WA: D-
Oops!!!
For comparison: OK: D- TX: D+
TX scored the highest out of these states. We’re fucked!
Yeah unfortunately it’s no guarantee that blue states are better. Many are, but not all. Colorado, California, and New York all score a ‘C’, still not great but much better.
Why in the hell would one move to a shitty red run welfare state? ICE is the neo Gestapo or NKVD.
Sooner or later they’ll break in a house with someone similar to them that will welcome them with a semi automatic…
Gatling guns are legal. Look into it.
At this point if I ever have the displeasure of meeting an ice terrorist I’m going to shoot him/her
IANAL, TINLA, but: Don’t publish plans to commit crimes.
If they are standing their ground it might be up for debate.
You gotta be smart, use obscure language embrace missed messaging.
Exhibit A, Your Honor.
ICE needs to be abolished. If they can’t do their job effectively and legally then they shouldn’t have jobs.
ICE needs to be abolished.
If they can’t do their job effectively and legally thenthey shouldn’t have jobs.FTFY
Their job is to cause terrorism they do it well
then they shouldn’t have jobs.
for the rest of their lives. and no gov backed living either, they need to be forced to live under the bridge
You really shouldn’t want them to be doing their jobs to any degree at all. Effective or otherwise.
The cruelty is the point. ICE is the refuge for assholes too racist even by normal Texas police standards.
Racism and ethnic cleansing are not “jobs” that should be done at all.
No shit. But immigration laws are important for good reason at the same time.
Yea it keeps people hating one another simply for being born somewhere else and ensures class warfare amongst the population.
What good reasons?
Immigration laws exist to manage the flow of people into and out of a country, regulating who can enter, for what purpose, and for how long. These laws are based on principles like family reunification, providing humanitarian aid, and recognizing skilled workers who benefit the economy. Additionally, they serve to ensure national security and public safety.
Nice chatgpt reply
Gotta love how lazy people are that they can’t even argue their own point without asking a machine to make it for them.
I get tired of repeating myself
I think everyone here gets tired of you repeating yourself.
If you’ve said it before you could just copy and paste it
go back to reddit please. save us the pain of downvoting you
Exactly how much arguing with people on Lemmy do you do that you find it too tiresome to do it yourself, but rather than just not engaging, you have a machine do it for you? Tbh, sounds like some shit a troll factory would do.
So they exist to solve problems that wouldn’t otherwise exist. Got it.
They exist because governments need to understand who the hell is in their borders for numerous reasons. If you don’t think that borders should exist… well then countries don’t exist… and so on…
This is paranoia not reality. The US has had very open boarders for a long long time, the boarder between Mexico and the US only had check points for commerce for most of my life until W started the fever dream that people moving across the boarder is going to get all the white women killed. This isn’t reality. There aren’t droves of Mexicans raping and killing white women, in fact, immigrants commit the least amount of crime out of any group of people in the US. This isn’t a problem if you aren’t a fucking racist paranoid idiot.
You can easily administrate a region without walling off that region
Countries should not exist, duh!
I’m going to disregard that first sentence because you’re explaining what they do, not giving good reasons for why they exist. In the second sentence, you indicated the principles that their existence is supposedly rooted in, but still fail to provide a good reason. Now, the third sentence: How do they ensure national security and public safety? Is there meaningful, demonstrable, or statistically significant evidence that this is the case, or are you taking it at face value to be the truth?
No, they’re mostly bullshit actually.
They need to be dissolved. In acid.
People are going to stop answering the doors politely.
They were asleep
everyone needs to remember that if/when this is over, anyone who supported this or participated in it needs to be shunned for the rest of their lives.
People who support this shit should be tarred and feathered.
shunned? they need to be imprisoned
Which is probably not going to happen. we could have a government of just democrats and they wouldn’t convict these people.
No, they need to be made examples of. There need to be mass Nuremberg trials, no Nazis left alone, no scientists spared, no business deals.
No mercy.
No. They need to be convicted and held to account.
held to account
in mass graves
I’m on your side. Giver.
steals their life savings
Everything new is a forgotten old, Wallenstein’s turn.
But yeah, more such stories, more rougher reactions.
I think Lemmy public will reconsider their gun rights stance after a couple of years.
I think Lemmy public will reconsider their gun rights stance after a couple of years
I used to think anti gun people would face reality at some point. Then January 6th happened, and blue conservatives still wanted to disarm the people.
Even after repeatedly demonstrating they or the justice system will never defend us. We are on our own.
Genocide abroad <—> Genocide at home
Thanks to the people that didn’t vote or threw away their vote, we’ll get both.
Any decent person who did not vote for this needs to absolutely gtfo of red states and assume they’re a no-go zone from here on out. Of course the blue states won’t be safe forever, but there is absolutely no reason to put yourself in danger by going to one of those Nazi shit holes.
I would love to flee to a blue-r area. Somewhere where sharing with my neighbors and participating in community doesn’t feel like supporting racism and misogyny.
But, I have a disabled family member that needs care in their home, so … for now my sense of familial duty keeps me in a very red area.
I sick of the red state garbage. Nearly every “red” state has “blue” cities. Stop blaming entire populations, age groups or other demographics. You’re just falling for the divide and conquer message they want to use against everyone.
Nah, what I actually said was if you’re in a red state and you didn’t vote for this, get the fuck out for your own protection. If you’ll take a second to read, that’s what I said. If you don’t take a second to read, that still remains what I said. I didn’t blame anyone in the state who didn’t vote for this for it, now did I? I said get out. You do you, man.
The vast majority of Americans do not have the means to up and move to a new state.
They won’t come to Blue states. I can promise you. If Federal Agents try pulling this shit in California. They won’t get out of the state to save their lives.
Don’t make brash promises you can’t keep, they absolutely have already come to blue states and they were all over blue states during Trump’s last term, too.
I’m in Cali, I want to believe that you’re right, but they’ve been going up and down the central valley black bagging brown people in home Depot parking lots.
Links? I didnt hear about this.
Calmatters has covered it pretty well. There’s been more raids, but this was the first article on it that I could find for you. https://calmatters.org/economy/2025/01/kern-county-immigration-sweep/
A justice recently issued an injunction against them just scooping up brown people first and finding out if they’re here illegally or criminals later, but IIRC they went ahead and ignored that and did another raid.
E: more recent article https://calmatters.org/justice/2025/04/border-patrol-injunction/
FTA:
After the January sweep, the man who led it, Chief Patrol Agent Gregory Bovino, said his agents specifically targeted people with criminal and immigration histories. However, a CalMatters investigation revealed that the Border Patrol had no criminal or immigration history on 77 of the 78 people it arrested.
The court also ordered the Border Patrol to document every stop and provide reports within 60 days. During oral arguments on Monday, the government attorney said doing so would be burdensome to Border Patrol agents. Judge Thurston rebuked the government, saying: “They have to make a report for every arrest, not sure what the burden is.”
According to sworn declarations filed in court by those detained, Border Patrol agents slashed tires, yanked people out of trucks, threw people to the ground, and called farmworkers “Mexican bitches.”
I’m sorry but at this point I would be too embarrased to be an American citizen and migrate the F out lmao, a second term Donald Trump? So embarrassing 😭🤦🏻♂️💩💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
What country are you in, and what have you done to make it easier for people to claim asylum there?
That’s kind of an asshole take. As a US citizen, there’s no country that would take me in right now. I’m just not eligible to work in any of the other countries I’ve looked at.
First, I only know English. I know a bit of French because my parents paid for lessons when I was a kid, but I’ve had zero chance to practice after college. Many Americans have no foreign language experience at all.
Second, what skills can a typical American market? If you don’t have any good skills, it’s hard to apply for work visa in another country. You could try applying for asylum, but other countries don’t really see things as bad enough to take in Americans yet.
Third, how long would it take to apply? A year is typical. Again, you could try asylum which may have an initial time allocation to stay until your hearing. But that only works once countries start accepting Americans’ asylum claims.
A lot of people can’t afford to move.
And a lot of people want to stay and fight.
In November I woke up ready to bail. but upon reviewing my options, I determined that nowhere was really better.
There seem to be precious few countries that aren’t flirting with authoritarian parties right now and leaving this one, where I have my social safety net (friends and family, if not government aid) and at least a small amount of power to vote for my values, to go somewhere where I am an immigrant or refugee and lose the power to change policy seemed to be a poor choice. so far. I’m white, straight and middle class, though, so that may be entirely different math for other people.
I’m choosing to stay and fight.
We are the illegal immigrants now.
I am embarrassed to be American. But I’m also too poor to do anything about it
And that’s what the rich want! The rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer! It’s the new American way sadly!
If only it were that easy.
We made a mistake. We won’t offer your stuff back though
Seems like they’re making a lot of those and not offering anything back.
